Libyan MiG-23 Pilot Remembers Dogfights with U.S. Navy F-14’s and F-18’s

With total disclosure, I lifted these quotes from The Aviation Geek Club.

F-18

‘During the afternoon of 12 February 1986, three MiG-23MLDs from No. 1023 Squadron had engaged a pair of F/A-18 Hornets over the international waters, north-east Tripoli. They clearly outflew the Americans and ended advantageous position, at their “6 o’clock”. Hornets were forced to disengage and run away. After that we were all excited about our new mounts and looking forward for further engagements.’ -Abdelmajid Tayari, Libyan MiG-23 pilot

F-14

‘On 13 February 1986, I was scrambled as leader of a pair of MiG-23MLDs to intercept a pair of F-14s underway about 170 kilometres [92nm] north-west of Benina. Each of our aircraft was armed with one R-24R, one R-24T, four R-60MKs and a full load of ammunition for 23mm cannon. Prior to take-off, I was briefed to expect four Tomcats: two at medium altitude, clearly visible on our radar, and two at low altitude, invisible to our radars, and waiting to sandwich us. The GCI vectored us to intercept the pair flying at medium altitude, and we approached head-on.

‘My wingman and me were underway at an altitude of 3,000 meters [9,842ft]: Tomcats were slightly higher, at 4,000 meters [13123ft]. I obtained a radar contact from about 45 kilometers range [29nm] and requested a clearance to engage. The GCI took some time to react, but then cleared me when I was having a visual contact — at a range of about 25 kilometers [13.5nm]. At the moment, the bogies stopped closing in: I maintained radar contact with them, and had my R-24R missiles ready to fire, they were almost within the range of my R-24R, but they turned away. Suddenly, the GCI shouted on the radio: “Two bogies at your 6 o’clock!”

‘I turned my head around to check, and surely enough: two F-14s were zooming up, some 1.5-2 kilometres (0.8-1nm) behind us. I ordered my Number 2 into a full afterburner, and broke hard left. My speed was still high as I turned left, nose down, 800-900 km/h [431-495kts], pulling 5-6gs towards the target, intending to force them into failing to track at my 6 o’clock. My reverse maneuver was so hard that my Number 2 overshot, while I reduced the distance between the F-14s behind me to nil. No doubt, the Americans were surprised: they didn’t expect that hard a manoeuvre, and were not ready for my reaction. By the time they woke up, they lost their advantage while my Number 2 turned back and placed himself in an advantageous position behind the Tomcats and me. But, they were highly qualified: they knew what to do.

‘As I continued turning hard towards the two Tomcats, my eyes focused at their rears until I’ve got what I wanted! I noticed the Tomcats shifting outwards, and then I rolled out, pulled my nose hard up, pulling 7gs, with throttle on idle. I executed a high-g barrel roll, during which my speed decreased very fast, down to 350 km/h [189kts]. Then I pushed my throttle to full dry power while my aircraft went through the vertical and pointed at the Tomcats while still inverted. Both Tomcat crews were fantastic: they followed the manoeuvre and we met at the top, within 30 metres (30 yards/98ft) of each other, much too close for comfort!

‘I discontinued the barrel roll and went for scissor maneuver (or low speed yo-yo’): I knew I had the advantage because of MiG-23MLD’s better performance in this position. Thus we began the scissor turns towards each other, at very low speed: this was below 300km/h [160kts], still full dry power, maximum angle of attack. The `stick-shaker’ in my stick began to operate, informing me that my aircraft was at the edge of a stall and spin. I was between two F-14s, only two meters lower, almost line abreast. Our position was equal, except that my Number 2 was behind and above all of us, in a good position to hit the Americans if that would be necessary. Only our controller was screaming on the radio, ordering us to disengage and turn back to base. I replied, “not yet… not at this stage!

‘The F-14 pilots were certainly surprised by the low speed handling and high angle of attack of my MiG-23MLD. And, certainly enough, my speed was meanwhile down to 230 km/h [124kts]! Mind, according to the flight manual, the minimal maneuvering speed for MiG-23MLD with wing position 45 is 450km/h [242kts]!

‘During the second scissor, I noticed that the lead F-14 attempted to engage afterburners. That was a very dangerous undertaking at that speed and attitude: a big white balloon went out of one of his engine nozzles, meaning there was more fuel than air in his combustion chamber. That was a good sign for me: he was facing the risk of an engine surge just to get few extra knots of speed.

‘Now it was the question of one of us forcing the opponent to put his nose down first. At that point in time, I knew the MiG-23MLD had two advantages over the F-14: it is lighter, which means it has less inertia, and its thrust-to-weight ratio is higher. Thus, I continued through the third, and then the fourth scissors. The situation remained very critical: it was really a risky challenge between five men in three aircraft, and until now I have special respect for these F-14-pilots.

‘After the fourth scissor, I got what I want: the Tomcats couldn’t maintain their position anymore and decided to put their noses down. I was as happy as I was never before — but my happiness didn’t last for long. They both made an incredible manoeuvre, which remains in my memory until this very day. Imagine, they put the nose down, right bank with full rudder at very low speed, then turned almost in place, head-on towards me, barely 100 metres [109 yards] away and below my aircraft!

‘I did not take the risk of flying the same manoeuvre, but followed them nevertheless: I pushed my aircraft hard down, picked some speed, then smoothly banked right, and checked my fuel indicator for the first time since start of this engagement. My fuel was down to 1700 litres, which at this distance from Benina was too little. I was in serious trouble now. While still diving, I saw two other F-14s closing at very high speed, coming to support their other pair. They passed about 50 metres below my nose.

‘I called my wingman to rejoin, levelled my aircraft, put the wings into 16 degrees position and turned in direction of my base while maintaining the best cruise speed to extend my range. The Tomcats took the advantage to fly behind me at some distance. Then they turned back before we entered Libyan airspace again. I’ve just had the best dogfight of my life!”

THEN THERE’S THIS

Better luck next time.

THE F-14 IN COMBAT– The comments make this post Epic.Iranian and Iraqi pilots bitching at each other. Don’t flame them, you can’t read or write Farsi.

IRANIAN TOMCATS GET A NEW PAINT JOB.

IRAN VERSUS THE FLYING SAUCERS

Tomcat Versus Eagle

This story is no shit because I was there.

You civilians try to stay up and if you have to, Google it .

The Air Force was thinking about acquiring the F-14 Tomcat.  The ones that were sold to Iran were built to Air Force specifications, mainly not carrier capable because the Iranians didn’t have a carrier.

In 1977 or 1978, I don’t remember which exact trip, I was a nosey little Airman that loved the F-14.  The Navy had set up in a trailer to act like a carrier or E-2C Hawkeye.  Whatever.  Needless to say I hung out there and rooted for the Navy.

This How I Remember it Going Down

First Sortie

The USAF was based at Nellis and the Navy was coming out of NAS Fallon.

F-15 flew out to the range.  No F-14.  He hung around for 20 minutes, called the Navy a no show and returned to base.  The pilot then found out the the Navy had splashed him just as he retracted the gear on take off.  Hurray for the AIM-54!

Air Force called “Bullshit” ours won’t have the AN/AWG-9/AIM-54 suite and the Navy was told that the AIM-54 was out.

Second Sortie

AIM-7 parameters.  Both jets had Sparrow radar guided missiles.  However, the F-14 had a RIO.  Splash one Eagle.

Air Force is now getting a little pissed and the Navy is buying drinks at the Club.

Third Sortie 

AIM-9 parameters.  Both jets had Sidewinder infra-red  guided missiles.  However, the F-14 had two sets of eyes instead of one.  Splash one Eagle.

Final Sortie

Gun parameters.  The F-15 was at his fighting speed and taking the fight to the Merge.  The Navy used Anti-MiG tactics used by the F-4 Phantom II in Vietnam.  They took it to the verticle and……splash on Eagle again.

You have to remember something about those engagements.  The F-15 was still new to the inventory and  TAC was still trying to figure out how to fight with the Eagle. Our F-4C’s from George AFB were there to conduct this very training. We were waxing the F-15 guys on a daily basis.

540 “shot down” 3 F-15’s and a F-106.

When the “Fucking First” from Langley left they tagged our jets with their very little used “ducks”.

In fact it got intense at the Crazy Horse Gentlemen’s Club one night.

The “Fucking First” were bragging about crewing the “World’s Greatest Fighter”.  We retorted that the Israelis were the only ones that had F-15’s and your bunch fly T-15’s.  “You training motherfuckers…etc, etc.”

Arrogant fucks put it right on their tail, The Fuckin’ First.

We said, “We work on the F-4 Phantom II.  A proven weapons system responsible for the deaths of thousands of women and children in South East Asia and we’re proud to work on it.”

 

I’m not sure who threw the first chair.  But things quickly escalated to a 20 v. 20 bar fight.  One of the reasons the Crazy Horse relocated to Industrial Road and “The World’s Biggest Gift Shop is now in its place on the Strip.

 

 

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